DNS-210 is LOUD!

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DNS-210 is LOUD!

Postby RipVanDan » Sun Dec 15, 2019 9:58 pm

Hi all,

Had a gig last night at a medium sized venue. Our group is known as the Blues Phoenix Project and we are a trio playing Blues and Rock. Took my complete set-up to it. I wasn't sure if the DNS-210 would be enough on its own so I put it on top of my DNS-410 figuring I could quickly unplug the 210 and plug in my 410 if needed. Hooked up my 800-watt Eden amp to my DNS-210 in bridged mode. So basically, I was using my DNS-410 to hold up my DNS-210. That's the most expensive amp stand I've ever used. ;).

And here's the stage that is set up across a corner. Plenty of depth in the corner but not a lot of room across the front. This shot is before we started. I ended up moving the amp farther to the right (looking at the stage) and brought it up closer to the front so I was more beside it instead of in front of it.:
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Here's a shot taken when we were performing.
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Here's my rig from last night. I actually only had the DNS-210 hooked up to the amp:
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I originally set up my mic just a few feet in front of it because the stage was in a corner and my spot was pretty shallow. During the sound check I walked out behind the tables past the dance floor. My bass was too quiet and a little thin. I normally run some boost at ~250Hz which gives me good definition in the mix. I could pick myself out just fine but sounded low and a bit thin. So I went back, moved the master volume up slightly and put on 2 clicks of Bass EQ (I usually run that Bass EQ flat). Then everything sounded great - nice and full and not too loud, but loud enough.

I walked into the bar area also which was separated by a counter and a beam across the ceiling. The sound level dropped significantly of course, but still sounded good. At 9 PM we came back on stage and after the first song I pushed my amp back as far as I could and off to my left as I faced the audience. The DNS210 was just killing my ears because it was right at ear level and only 3-feet away. Next song I moved it over as far to my left as I could and was still being killed by it. Then I moved it up a bit so it was almost even with where I was standing. That helped a lot. Finally I moved my mic over towards the center by about a foot and that's how I played for the rest of the night.

As you might guess I had zero trouble hearing it last night, but even though the guitar was mic'd and I had a monitor, I had a hard time hearing him. But the levels were great out front and that was the main thing. I was able to hear the guitar well enough to know where he was in the progressions and leads and that was all I really needed. We ended at 1 AM and still had a fair amount of folks in the club. Club owner gave us a $100 bonus for the night because he did so well. Was a really good feeling, but man was I tired when it was over.

I often wondered why so many of the DNA endorsers used the DNS-210. Now I know. It has the same great sound characteristics as my DNS410 but in a smaller package. I will NOT be using my DNS-410 as an amp stand for my DNS-210 in any future gigs. This DNS-210 is easily as loud or louder than any 410 outside of the DNS-410 which really plays like an 810 or better. So, the DNS210 will be my go-to cab for anything except large venues, outdoor venues, and outdoor Festivals where I'll pull out my DNS-410.

Bottom line is that besides the great sound, the DNS-210 is LOUD!! :happy-partydance: :DD
Rip Van Dan
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Amps: Eden WT500/800 (signature model!), Eden Nemesis RS400, Eden TN226
Cabs: DNS-410-8, DNS-210-8, two each Eden EX112-4
Basses: 1982 Fender Jazz (MIA), 2009 Rogue LX405 Pro (surprisingly good 5-string)

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Re: DNS-210 is LOUD!

Postby TobiasMan » Mon Dec 16, 2019 12:13 am

What? What? Can you speak louder???? There was a lot of booming thunder coming up from the south last night and my hearing is a bit affected. :o :lol:

Glad the gear worked as advertized. Sometimes, regardless of the hype, you have to actually experience it to believe it! :clap:
Feel that bottom, eh?
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Re: DNS-210 is LOUD!

Postby RipVanDan » Mon Dec 16, 2019 2:49 am

Yeah, it was pretty amazing. I'd only used it up to that point in our rehearsal studio powering it with an Eden TN226 which puts out 225 into 4 ohms and about half that into 8 ohms. Since this is an 8 ohm cab I'm guessing somewhere around 120-watts, and that worked just fine for rehearsal but hadn't used it with my WT500/800 yet and just wasn't sure if it would do the trick by itself. Well, I found out! It's definitely a loud cabinet when I put a few more watts into it. I don't think I'll ever raise it up that high again. I prefer not to have it on the floor, but having next to your ears can be painful. It's a freaking GREAT cab!
Rip Van Dan
Love those David Nordschow designs!
Amps: Eden WT500/800 (signature model!), Eden Nemesis RS400, Eden TN226
Cabs: DNS-410-8, DNS-210-8, two each Eden EX112-4
Basses: 1982 Fender Jazz (MIA), 2009 Rogue LX405 Pro (surprisingly good 5-string)

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Re: DNS-210 is LOUD!

Postby Bassmann1968 » Mon Dec 16, 2019 3:42 am

Looks great!
I bet itt sounded even better :D
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Re: DNS-210 is LOUD!

Postby RipVanDan » Mon Dec 16, 2019 2:58 pm

Yeah Armin it did sound great once I got out of the direct line of fire. Sounded great out in the audience, but you don't want to be standing 3-ft. in front of it with the speakers at ear level when you're playing a gig. It really produces the same sound as my DNS410 though and I really like that!
Rip Van Dan
Love those David Nordschow designs!
Amps: Eden WT500/800 (signature model!), Eden Nemesis RS400, Eden TN226
Cabs: DNS-410-8, DNS-210-8, two each Eden EX112-4
Basses: 1982 Fender Jazz (MIA), 2009 Rogue LX405 Pro (surprisingly good 5-string)

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Re: DNS-210 is LOUD!

Postby Bassmann1968 » Wed Dec 18, 2019 5:49 am

Maybe we should ask for a dummy cab just to put underneath.
For ear level and looks :D
You know I love big rigs ;)
Armin

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Re: DNS-210 is LOUD!

Postby RipVanDan » Wed Dec 18, 2019 2:43 pm

LOL...you think David would put out empty cabs for use as amp/cab stands? How about those false fronts like you see from Marshall? :whistle: :whistle: :shifty: :DD
Rip Van Dan
Love those David Nordschow designs!
Amps: Eden WT500/800 (signature model!), Eden Nemesis RS400, Eden TN226
Cabs: DNS-410-8, DNS-210-8, two each Eden EX112-4
Basses: 1982 Fender Jazz (MIA), 2009 Rogue LX405 Pro (surprisingly good 5-string)

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Re: DNS-210 is LOUD!

Postby TobiasMan » Wed Dec 18, 2019 7:32 pm

Business opportunity there, Dan?
Feel that bottom, eh?
Steinberger NXT5 EUB, MTD 535 fretless, Tobias Killer B6, 72 Fender P,
David's "pre-DNA" rig (Navs, QSC PL230, WT500, XLT & XST 410s, 215)

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Re: DNS-210 is LOUD!

Postby Bassmann1968 » Thu Dec 19, 2019 3:07 am

I don't think so, Dan.
Also, I guess I buy the box with the woofers anyway :DD
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Re: DNS-210 is LOUD!

Postby grimjim » Sat Dec 21, 2019 11:06 pm

That was the first DNS cab I checked out. I was amazed how much sound came out of a 2x10.
I wanted to check out the 4x10 but the DNA stuff is a little hard to find in Chicago, and that was all they had. I was hooked though and have one, plus 2-4x10s. I use the 2x10 at home, one 4x10 at practice and 1-4x10 for gigs. I haven't tried combining cabs yet, Haven't seen the need though it might be fun.
I'm running a 1350 into those cabs and, we're a bit loud, (death metal) and one cab is plenty.
I should get an 800 for at home. Hmmmmm……..


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