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One semi-parametric control please

Posted: Sun Jun 16, 2019 8:04 pm
by RipVanDan
I don't yet have either the DNA-800, or the DNA-1350, though I would certainly like to have one of either of them. I know David went with the simplified EQ on them opting for bass, low-mids, high-mids, and treble. I have a WTDI that I use whenever I have to play through a provided backline and I like it a lot. It has simplified EQ with the mids being toggled between either a 500Hz or a 2KHz center. I always put a little boost on the low mid with the 500Hz selected and it sounds good. However, when I'm using my Eden amps, I always add that low-mid boost at 250Hz.

I would really like to see one semi-parametric control on the DNA amps. Just one...don't need three...OK, I like three, but would be fine with just one like I have on my Nemesis RS400 from 2008.

My Eden Nemesis RS400 has that one semi-parametric control and if the room isn't doing weird things to the sound I can set it at ~250Hz and boost that frequency a couple of notches. That give me great definition in the mix and you can hear the bass pretty well even in cell phone recordings. AND that single control makes it easy to dial in a room. You can quickly find any frequencies that are being boosted or cut by the room and adjust your EQ to get back to flat. I'd really like to have that dual capability available on one of the DNA amps.

Any chance of getting just one semi-parametric control added to the EQ section??...pretty please...with a cherry on top??

Re: One semi-parametric control please

Posted: Sun Jun 16, 2019 8:31 pm
by jmcgliss
Interesting idea. The IEM personal mixer I use at church has one parametric on the Mid control, and I do use it.

With David's 800 head, the four EQ controls are very sensitive. FWIW, sometimes I experiment with cutting the Low Mid or the Bass control to bring out more of the adjacent frequencies.

Re: One semi-parametric control please

Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2019 12:01 am
by RipVanDan
Thanks Jim. What I found works best for me using my passive MIA Fender Jazz with my Eden amps is to run everything flat but to boost the low-mids @250Hz. It really makes a big difference. You get a nice thump in the chest from it and that boost adds so much definition to the bass in the mix.

As I mentioned, I use the WTDI also and it's low-mid control that toggles between 500Hz and 2KHz. I run it set to the 500Hz and boost that the same amount that I do with my other Eden amps (between 1:30 and 2 o'clock). That actually works fine, I just like the 250Hz boost a little better. Used my WTDI at a recent recording session and it sounded great. I started to roll in my DNS-410 and he said, "we won't be using that. We'll put you straight into the board. Lo and behold, I pulled out my WTDI and plugged that into to the wall mount going to the board. It amazed the engineer at how good it sounded. He originally wanted me to use his DI box but I convinced him I should use mine and he was glad I did.

One of the most useful things you can use a semi-parametric for though is dialing in a room. If you set the boost at 3 o'clock (lots o' boost) and have someone slowly move the Frequency selector as you play, you will really hear if the room is boosting any frequencies or cutting them. If you play a long and all of a sudden it gets louder, you will need to cut that frequency to balance out the room. If you're playing along and it suddenly gets quieter, you've just found the frequency the room is sucking out of your sound and now you know what frequency you need to boost. With that much boost, it's really not very subtle but is pretty easily recognized.

You can balance your sound back to flat pretty quickly with that and then boost or cut other EQ's to tweak the sound you want. I rarely boost or cut more than 1 hour mark on the clock face (boost to 1 o'clock or cut to 11 o'clock). Occasionally you'll run into a drum-head stage where it bounces and flexes requiring more cut on the bass. But you can easily select the offending frequency and fix it.

Learned how to do that thanks to Lane back in 2008 when I got my RS400 that has one semi-parametric. Continued using one of the semi-parametrics on my WT500/800 once I got that to dial in the room. Would really like to see just one on the DNA amps.

Re: One semi-parametric control please

Posted: Tue Jun 25, 2019 9:43 am
by jmcgliss
That is a useful idea. I can relate to those drum-head stages, which taught me to think of cutting first.

I've also been seeking out string sets that have good volume balance from string to string, so that the bass itself is not boosting lows or too thin on top.

Re: One semi-parametric control please

Posted: Tue Jun 25, 2019 2:45 pm
by RipVanDan
Hey Jim, Try the La Bella Deep Talking Bass Tape Wound flats. I switched to them last year after playing round wounds for the previous 33-years. They sound great and have the best balanced sound across strings I've used.

Prior to this I used Dean Markley Blue Steel for many years and then DR Black Beauties at Lane's recommendation. The Black Beauties sounded better across the strings than the Blue Steel did, but my White Tape Wound La Bella's sound far better than either of them as I go up to the D and G strings.

Dan

Re: One semi-parametric control please

Posted: Tue Jun 25, 2019 10:02 pm
by jmcgliss
All good choices. For now I'm settled in with DR Legend Flatwounds. But my tastes change depending on the project!